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Here are some extracts from the contents of this letter, and the letter in its entirety, including a number of Scriptural references, may be read here. It is no doubt that it is still summer in Israel and harvest time is NOT here. The only fruit that has been in harvest is the grapes which always come in mid to late August. This is the way it was observed in biblical times … I encourage each of you to pray to Yahweh and with a sincere heart and ask Him to guide you into the truth, which we all seek. I am posting this on our Blog so that we can begin with a process, here in South Africa, of discussing the matter openly and freely, trusting Yahweh to guide our minds and guard our hearts, in order for many of us to gain understanding in this regard.

I just quickly want to make an observation, may be it is also something that should be considered. Just a thought. I have noticed here in Gauteng that we jumped from winter straight into summer in less than a week. My gut feeling says that I cannot combine a Greek Astronomy concept with a Scriptual way of searching for the truth. But reading the letter of this Achi in Jerusalem, I realize that there could be practical problems with the Calendar I believe is the correct Scriptual Calendar and then my question is, where is the error.

A friend of mine in England once remarked that the modern world used genetic manipulation techniques and natural selection to change the yield and the timing of produce, in order to make the harvest time earlier and also lengthen the harvest time, in order to make more money. So if some barley ripens three weeks earlier that it should be, could it introduce an error into a calendar depending on the ripening of barley?

Hallo John, dit sal goed wees as jy jou siening van hierdie epos aan ons kan deurgee. Verder — watter kalender gebruik julle en n. Ekskuus, John, het nou na jul kalender gekyk en besef my vorige kommentaar was kortsigtig. Sal egter nog steeds jou siening oor die epos wil he wat jy vir ons aangestuur het. I think it is good to be always examing our understanding of Torah.

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Knowledge puffs up but Wisdom is from the Almighty, and so we need to have wisdom in dealing with these things and not be too proud to re-examine what we think we know or teach with a haughty attitude. A few points on the Feasts; 1. So let us remember to follow the greatest commands … Love your Elohim …. Love your neighbour …. Thanks for the responses thus far. As I have stated before, this post is intended to encourage discussion and to bring more clarity among the widely nuanced community of believers in Messiah.

A few very interesting points have already been made, and I would like to encourage more people to comment on these:. Is there something that we can or ought to do when we determine the timing of the feasts, in order to take into account the global changes in the weather and seasonal patterns? Is there a way of sidestepping the complex process of genetic manipulation when we set out to determine the beginning of a Scriptural year? Please read the following as you are prayerfully studying this issue…It has helped me and my family out…May Yahweh lead you…guide you…shalom. If a certain method of determining the timing of the feast days was good enough for Him, it should most certainly be good enough for us.

It seems clear that during the lifetime of Messiah the decisions regarding calendar issues were made by the Sanhedrin, the supreme council and highest authority of ancient Israel, consisting of 70 to 72 members. Although at certain stages the Sanhedrin was influenced and even made up primarily of Sadducees, there seems to be some evidence that since before the birth of Messiah, up until the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 C. On the other hand, certain sources express their doubts whether the Pharisees had the final word in the decision making process, during this period.

First of all, the beginnings of the months were determined by direct observation of the new moon. If there was any indication that the First month of Aviv or Nisan, and especially the feast beginning with Passover, would not fall in the proper season of spring, they would announce the intercalation of a 13th month, directly after the 12th month of the previous year.

If we apply these criteria, theoretically speaking, to the situation this year, , when many believers celebrated Passover or Pesach on the 31st of March 11 days after the Spring or Vernal equinox on 20 March and Sukkot on the 25th of September 2 days after the Autumnal equinox on 23 September , having waited for reports from Israel with regards to the ripeness of the barley, before starting with the month of Aviv, it seems to comply perfectly with the method used during the time of the Messiah.

At least two of the three criteria mentioned above, have, in fact, been fulfilled. In my own understanding, the believers who celebrated the feasts of on the above-mentioned dates, did not do so in error. As far as the equinox is concerned, it should remain a general rule of thumb that if the 12th month of the previous year is due to end before or on the 6th of March 14 days before the equinox we may know, with relative certainty, that a 13th month will have to be intercalated. Next year, a very interesting situation is due to unfold. There is a slight possibility that the new moon in Israel, after the twelfth month of the current year, may be seen on Shabbat the 5th of March.

The probability, however, is greater for the new moon to be seen for the first time only on Su the 6th of March, which is exactly 14 days before the equinox, if we go according to Greenwich time, but 15 days before the equinox, if we go according to Israel time! If we were to start with a new year on Mo the 7th of March, it means that Pesach will fall on the 20th of March, which is one day short of 21 March, the date of the equinox for Israel.

All this seem to indicate that a 13th month will have to be intercalated and that the new Scriptural year will only start on Tu the 5th of April , by which time the barley in Israel will surely have reached a satisfactory degree of ripeness. This is perhaps the most important research that was give to me and my family…You may want to print it out and read it because it is VERY meaty….

Well, ask yourself this…. Our calendar system has been calculated in order to NOT interfere with business…. It is a Sliver…. The primary sense of chadash is cutting or polishing. Yahweh divided…. Just like clock work the season changes….

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It is now afternoon…. Why are so many people wrong? Look at it like Sunday worship…Why do so many people worship on Sunday instead of doing it correctly on Sabbath? We all blindly followed the System…well…. This is my honest question, and maybe we can help one another in this regard.

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I have read the well written articles that you have referred to previously, as well as other studies in this regard. The evidence that we have before us seems to indicate at most that during the First Century it was only a requirement that Pesach had to fall in the season of Spring, that is, after the Vernal Equinox — not that the beginning of the month of Aviv or Nisan had to fall in the season of Spring. If someone has access to sources in which proofs to the contrary may be found, I would very much appreciate if those sources or the links to those sources could be made available to us.

It also seems true that the Babylonians, indeed, did not allow the first month of the year to come before the vernal equinox. But we still lack sufficient evidence that the Sanhedrin, during the time of Messiah, followed the same system. What we do know, is that leaders like Ezra and Nehemiah did their best to get rid of certain Babylonian and unscriptural influences and that subsequent generations did not follow the Babylonian way of determining times and seasons, in every respect.

In their reckoning as to when a day started and when it ended, it seems that they deviated from the pattern in force in Babylon during the time of exile. For the Babylonians a day started in the morning and ended in the evening. Hi John…my husband is going to dig up more information for you…We proved through historical records and scriptures and will share them with you…It will take us a little more time…We know that you are looking for documented PROOF….

That is how we were also…It is a pleasure getting to know you…and our other brothers and sisters :. He is asleep awaiting the resurrection…. Does Pesach depend on the ripened Barley?. Dear sir, I received your letter of May 12, in which you asked for some data about barley. It is real coincidence that recently I have been receiving two other letters from different countries, all dealing with the same subject. Well first of all, I want to give you some general information about barley growing today in our country, which may use as a background for better understanding.

This trend is due to the much lower prices for barley in compare with wheat prices, whereas the yields of both grains are more or less at the same level. In the Jordan Valley there is hardly any barley left to day. Among the Arab farmers in the vicinity of Jericho there can still be found some small patches of barley. This year was a very exceptional one, from climatic point of view.

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We have had an extreme wet and cold winter and therefore there was a great delay in the ripening of wheat and bailey. Both are sown as a rule in , November and the harvest starts around the end of April — the beginning of May. As stated I this year, the first wheat and barley have been harvested not before mid of May in the Jordan Valley.

However, it is not right of course to make a comparison between to-day and the Ancient time, not as far as concerns the variety of barley and not the way of harvesting. Otherwise the mechanical harvester does not perform a clean threshing and the grain cannot be stored without further drying. In the Ancient times and even to-day with primitive methods the barley and Wheat were harvested with a sicle and left on the land in sheaves for further drying.

As you probably may know, at the Passover the first omer of barley was brought as sacrifice to the Temple and before this day, the new barley was not allowed to be consumed neither for the animals. New wheat was not allowed to be consumed before Pentecost or at least as long as old wheat was still available. In the Talmud, it is mentioned that there were years that the barley was not yet ripe at Passover. In order to be able to bring the omer sacrifice of barley in time to the Temple, they used to sow barley upon some flat roofs in the Jericho valley, which would be ready and apt to the Sacrifice on the Passover.

The Omer is not a big quantity of grain. Yours sincerely. Director Field Crops Dept. Robert, you ask for more clarity with regards to the feast Shabbat days for this year, seeing that some people need enough time to make the necessary leave arrangements with their employers. We have started the current discussion some time after Sukkot last year, having learned that some believers felt that our feast cycle last year had started one month too early.

After some discussion, no outright conclusion has been reached and it is still my contention that the method of determining the feast cycle that we, and many others, are currently using, although certainly not perfect, is as close as possible to what seems to be the method being used during the lifetime of the Messiah. What is this method? For this reason we take notice of the reports of groups like the Karaites, concerning the state of ripeness of the barley in Israel.

It seems, however, that during the time of the Messiah, this was not the only criterion when making a decision as to when the new year and the renewed feast cycle should begin. The Sanhedrin, who was in charge of decisions of this nature, looked at other factors, too, as we have already mentioned, a few comments ago in this current discussion. They wanted to come to some degree of certainty that all the feasts would fall in their proper season, and would therefore add a thirteenth month every now and then, based on these factors.

With the lunar year of twelve months being approximately 11 days shorter than a solar year of twelve months, a thirteenth month needs to be added or intercalated every two or three years, for these two different cycles to remain aligned. As we have explained before, we have a situation this year where the new moon that will introduce the next month after the twelfth month this year, is expected to be seen on 5 or 6 March , which is just a little bit more than half a month before the equinox in Israel, which is already a fairly good indication that a thirteenth month will have to be added to the present year.

There was already some concern last year, brought to our attention by people living in Israel, when the new year started almost two weeks later than what would be the case if we do not add a thirteenth month this year. My own feeling, in conclusion, is that a thirteenth month will most probably have to be introduced this year, resulting in 6 or 7 March being the first day of the 13th month and 5 April being the first day of the first month of the new year.

I sent some info to John about some Calendars that he will upload, in order that we can all see and comment on. It may be viewed here. Firstly, I believe that a discussion like this is good and perfectly valid. We should question everything and thrash it out so to speak. However, here is where I respectfully differ. Here is the thing — Matters like the Calendar which should actually bring us into oneness and makes us a unique and peculiar people who serve the Elohim of Israel, become matters of strife and division.

What a paradox. His will for us is certainly not that we each celebrate His Appointed Times on different times. Yehudah was the tribe that has been given the jurisdiction and are the appointed custodians over the Torah. We can argue that Shiloh has come and that the scepter is no longer with them. This obviously does not mean that is the case in every point, including the matter of the Calendar.

For there is a commandment in the Torah that goes as follow:. And you shall guard to do according to all that they instruct you. You do not turn to the right or to the left from the word which they declare to you. Shaul and Barnabas applied this commandment when there was strife as is written in Acts The judges of that day made a ruling which one would not find anywhere in the Torah. Yet it was a ruling by the judges and it is to be obeyed as if it is a commandment from YHWH.

The Calendar is an issue for all Israel corporately and not for individuals. Mat And…. I believe that the Calendar issue and the errors regarding it will be addressed in the near future and that the restoration thereof would be soon in our days. As much as we might hate it, note what it says in Devarim At the moment the Body is divided and duped in chaos, and each one is doing what is right in his own eyes.

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On top of that and to make it worse we have strife and contention in the household which inevitably leads to baseless hatred. And if the root is set-apart, so are the branches. And if you boast, remember: you do not bear the root, but the root bears you! By unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by belief.

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Do not be arrogant, but fear. It is quite evident that whichever calendar one would follow that there would always be unresolved issues that would make whichever one you choose to follow, doubtful. In the process we miss the point. Jacques, you make the valid point that we cannot follow the Yehudim in their rejection of Messiah. A few examples from Scriptures may suffice to prove the point. And His taught ones were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain, to eat. But I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the Set-apart Place.

For the Son of Adam is Master of the Sabbath. And in vain do they worship Me, teaching as teachings the commands of men.

Luk And He was teaching in one of the congregations on the Sabbath, and see, there was a woman having a weakening spirit for eighteen years …. Does not each one of you on the Sabbath loosen his ox or his donkey from the stall, and lead it away to water it? And this one, being a daughter of Avraham, whom Satan has bound, look, for eighteen years, should she not be loosened from this bond on the Sabbath? For it is impossible for us not to speak of what we saw and heard.

But Elohim has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean. You also refer to Acts 15 as an example of the apostles making use of a certain principle of Torah to come to a decision with regards to a previously unresolved issue. This may be true, but Acts 15 is also a perfect example of the apostles coming to a very important decision concerning a matter that falls within the confines of Torah, without going to the Sanhedrin or following the traditions of the Yehudim but, instead, resolving it among themselves.

I am just as frustrated with the disunity among followers of the Messiah as you are. But aligning ourselves with the Yehudim in matters where they are not aligned with Scriptures, will, in my opinion, only make things worse.